Articles | Volume 6, issue 3
https://doi.org/10.5194/gchron-6-475-2024
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Technical note: Optimizing the in situ cosmogenic 36Cl extraction and measurement workflow for geologic applications
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- Final revised paper (published on 12 Aug 2024)
- Preprint (discussion started on 20 Mar 2024)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-713', Shasta Marrero, 30 Apr 2024
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RC2: 'Reply on RC1', Shasta Marrero, 01 May 2024
- AC1: 'Reply on RC3', Alia J. Lesnek, 16 Jun 2024
- AC1: 'Reply on RC3', Alia J. Lesnek, 16 Jun 2024
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RC2: 'Reply on RC1', Shasta Marrero, 01 May 2024
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RC3: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-713', Irene Schimmelpfennig, 02 May 2024
- AC1: 'Reply on RC3', Alia J. Lesnek, 16 Jun 2024
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AR – Author's response | RR – Referee report | ED – Editor decision | EF – Editorial file upload
ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (further review by editor) (17 Jun 2024) by Hella Wittmann
AR by Alia J. Lesnek on behalf of the Authors (17 Jun 2024)
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ED: Publish as is (21 Jun 2024) by Hella Wittmann
ED: Publish as is (23 Jun 2024) by Tibor J. Dunai (Editor)
AR by Alia J. Lesnek on behalf of the Authors (24 Jun 2024)
General Comments
I’m very excited to see work on improving cosmogenic 36Cl processing methods. This paper clearly presents a method for cosmogenic chlorine sample processing that splits the measurement of stable Cl from the cosmogenic measurement to improve various aspects of sample processing. There are a number of key concerns in the community around chlorine sample processing and this paper is a step towards solving some of these. Overall, the authors did an excellent job of communicating everything clearly and the paper was easy to follow. I have a couple of key points, but overall I recommend this paper for publication after minor revisions. This is a much-needed step forward.
Specific Comments
I think the most important point of this paper is the ability to use significantly less isotopically enriched carrier (spike) for each chlorine sample. The importance of this point in this field cannot be overstated. Spike price has been increasing and there is the possibility of increasingly dwindling supplies in the future since it is not a commonly created reagent. This issue has come up regularly at conferences and is a concern for everyone in the field. The reduction of the carrier needed for each sample offers a significant improvement. This point could be highlighted even more, if desired.
The paper discusses only using 37Cl-enriched carrier and explains why this is preferable to the 35Cl-enriched carrier. However, many labs are using 35Cl-enriched carrier instead for a number of reasons (cheaper, more readily available), so I feel that this technique could be applicable to a broader range of labs more quickly if you address the issue of whether or not this technique would be possible with 35Cl-enriched carrier instead and if any changes might be needed (or when to proceed with caution). Obviously, this is not the ideal situation, but given how many labs use this carrier already, it would be nice to see it addressed directly.
This is a very practical paper, so I will bring up one more practical point: adding additional steps at the AMS facility can be challenging when you do not have an AMS nearby. I love the fact that measuring Cl in advance would help processing be more exact, but it will also add time to the processing as well as an extra trip to the accelerator which will add considerable time to each sample batch (and potentially more cost for additional measurements?), although this will affect some labs more than others (e.g. those where samples are delivered in infrequent large batches). This is not a huge point and I think the advantages are worth the additional time in this case, but maybe worth mentioning?
Here are a number of smaller points/questions: